Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.07.14 22:44:51 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:The solution is to give all Industrial ships real fittings including turret slots, and EHP comparable to combat ships. (DPS will obviously not be the same since they won't have any bonuses towards turrets, and Cargo extenders should get a stacking penalty to make it not silly to not fit 100% extenders as soon as you fit any).
TLDR version.
Ganking does not need to be more expensive, it needs to allow interaction.
I keep saying this, and almost nobody seems to be able to see how important this is!
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2969
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Posted - 2016.07.15 01:02:43 -
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Danika Princip wrote:Please define EHP comparable to combat ships. Is a 100k+ DST not comparable? Or a 30k ehp t1 industrial that passive tanks 1.2k blaster DPS?
Picking absolute numbers is pointless. Fits vary greatly. Those EHP numbers can be obtained on either side, with the right expensive equipment. To make an actual comparison, you consider their base hit points, number of slots, CPU/powergrid, and net base resists. Eliminate the factors that can be fit onto either side, and consider only the differences between the two.
DSTs and fast industrials have EHP comparable to combat ships, Procurer/Skiff have even higher in terms of their sig radius. The rest of the industrials do not.
But I would look less at how their EHP stacks up--industrials aren't tissue paper anymore--and look more upon their fitting choices. Some hulls are severely lacking in fitting options. Mining barges are especially bad in this field, but haulers have severe difficulty properly taking advantage of their low slots, except for DSTs which don't even need cargo expanders. So cargo expansion is broken. It's all or nothing, there is no in-between.
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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